This could be good idea, I know we currently have the sitmi stuff in the discord which I believe helps with community initiative and taking ownership! That being said having a dedicated council could allow for more targeted help to support the Pyth Team even more.
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IMO it opens the options even more for the Pythians. Chirons and the program is a subset of it and you have been amazing with the distribution of impact awards to the community members. But as of today, that’s it.
The council would have the power to do much more, launch new initiatives, and have the budget to do so.
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Because we do not need 15+ Chirons, 5 community council, to service a tight bubble of 100 active and consistent priests. I think we will need it when we have 650 consistent priests, therefore the priority should be breaking out of our existing small community, not trying to create more programs within this small community.
I agree with you that “more” is unnecessary to serve today’s group of active members.
But if we want to grow this number with 550/1000/10000 active members, it’s not possible with today’s resources.
More opportunities and autonomy must be given to community members (like yourself) to launch new initiatives that will bring these new active contributors.
Current manpower will not make that growth possible IMO and growth would remain slow or even stale.
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I think this council comes with a couple of main differences.
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We have grants programs now that need to be overseen, iterated upon and budgeted for - such as the economy bot being built for the Impact Awards program now.
These programs require a significant amount of time and organization. I think this council is well placed to help administering some of these processes (Impact Awards, as an immediate example). -
Helping to moderate the Governance forum.
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Council would have additional power to pick up and run with some larger initiatives if they wish - with our support.
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Also agree - but we also need more man power to run all of these community initiatives and do those expansions, in my opinion.
The council can do this - and it’s an opportunity for the community to have a more direct role in the Pyth DAO and understand how it works. These council members are using funds from the Growth portion of the Pyth tokenomics to advocate for the network and bring more people in. They also have a responsibility over the community and therefore it’s success.
Some of the best ideas for expansion, content and value adds come from the community - we need to have people who are intimately involved with it (and compensated to do so) so we can get the best out of those ideas.
6 people from within the community who are empowered (and compensated) to come up with ideas like Impact Awards, or find partnerships like The Backwoods is a powerful community building tool, imo.
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This is one of the primaries,
the teams & community aspires to grow much much bigger the council serves a way for this to happen I assume the roles granted in the discord right now will not change much from Chop & Pepito vision
The council will become a think tank/ operational centre in its own right
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Running a lot of community events simultaneously, giving out IAs and auditing them, overlooking the entire Discord activity, advocating for the brand on social media platforms + other miscellaneous tasks can get tricky at time. Bear in mind that many Chirons also have irl jobs.
Yes, we might not have a gazillion of active priests right now and even if we have a 100 we must still make sure everyone is comfortable and having fun. We didn’t have that many priests a few months ago. We can definitely see the progress now and if we really want to onboard many people to PYTH it is better to take actions asap.
My only question, however, remains unanswered. What position in the hierarchy will the Council Members hold?
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What hierarchy would you envísion for council these things are open for discussion unless team has a set idea?
I am just trying to understand it correctly…
So, since the Council will technically have more opportunities to throw larger scale events, work on collabs/partnerships etc and Pepito and Chop might delegate some tasks to council members, does it mean they will be higher than Chirons? Same level as a them? Somewhere in-between?
I don’t imagine any specific hierarchy as the council will have the autonomy to do anything they see fit. Among these responsibilities is managing the Chirons program from the initial proposal.
The Pyth contributors you know by now will be available to support/discuss these initiatives and projects if the councilors want.
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Technically above Chiron is your pulling rank but as Pepito kindly said full autonomy to do what is required
So no real need to be ranked as such your just have an important role within the Pyth Network same as other the Pythian councils
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As a greater extension to the issues I brought regarding to prioritization and growth, I’d propose in parallel that the community council is an external community initiative and the internal community remain with the Chirons.
The external community initiative should involve a council member from 6 different protocols as Pyth ecosystem partners…
- each council member should be crypto natives, and are currently professional web3 builders
- tried and true community growth or user focused stakeholders
- each council member representing and responsible for domains of devrel, strategy, ops, bizdev, events, web3 marcomms
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To me the description was that of a chiron.
Just pointing out the coincidence
If there is a ‘community’ council coming in then chiron becomes irrelevant. If you want a council just upgrade the chirons who have the time
Although we may see the current community as “small” for the creation of such Governance structure, I think we need to make sure everything is in place to handle the flow when it will came.
To be me it’s a matter of time and market penetration. The current “slow” sentiment is also ideal to build, test, propose and dispose of ideas while the Community well managed by the Community members and the Team.
I do think we need a more formal structure by the Community to let the Chop and Pepito handle other matters on the corporate side of Pyth.
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Aren’t the Pyth Council and Price Feed Coucil already composed in majority of people for external projects?
Would this separate Council replace in some way the current Pyth Data and indirectly Douro Labs BD Team?
Nota bene: The premises of the above is that you suggest the creation of 2 Council.
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I don’t know what or which Chiron activity could fall under external “growth” which could be scalable.
Douro and PDA should not be the only effort on this as they are responsible for other initiatives pushing the project forward, nor should they be the sole community and growth effort for decentralisation and autonomy purposes. The councils would fall under the DAO directly.
If you look at some of the ‘responsibilities’ highlighted by @Debanked, there is more to the role of Chirons.
In my mind, Chirons are here to stay as a group of 8-15 members who are on the ground in the Discord running the impact awards program day to day. Some have taken initiatives outside of pure discord which is fantastic. But there’s a lot more to it I believe.
@Chop mentioned some community partnerships (Backwoods, Pikenians, …), IRL events, local communities activation, involvement in governance, …
This council could have a big-picture view on initiatives to kick-start to grow the community and add to the contributors’ manpower.
So I do not believe this is overshadowing the Chirons, you all do an amazing amount of work I am proud, so proud to see what is created on a day to day 
Chiron is here to stay, the council is an extension of community that requires to be made up of community. We know the day to day needs much more then an external force ever can or may lack the passion to do so like the Pythian’s have.
How I see the council is as @Pepito has said, this is the creation of additional opportunities & ideas that come from it’s additional powers to approach other protocols for instance.
In the past a few of us have asked to be able to do this but we have lacked the rep as community to secure these kind of deals, a fully funded & permissioned council would have such powers & be recognised by Pyth partners as such.
It gives us room to grow, this is fyi still in ideas, let’s mold this into something that will work for everyone 
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